~Frequently
Asked Questions~
and
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Brands and Purchasing Tips~
When dealing with private
oboe students, the most common obstacles I have found, in relation
to producing a proper tone, are reed and instrument problems.
If a student has a "bad" reed and an instrument which
is not functioning properly, that student is just NOT going to
get a decent sound. The oboe, as you may have noticed, has about
a million adjustment screws (okay, I'm exaggerating here, but
not by much!). In other words, there is MUCH room for error. For
this reason, a good quality oboe is a must! Unfortunately, when
dealing with oboes, you've got your "Yugos" and your
"Mercedes", and not much in between! But I urge you,
when purchasing an instrument, to get the best oboe that you can
afford. It will save you money in repairs and adjustments in the
long run! You would also be amazed at the difference in sound
and response in a higher quality oboe. The newer oboes have a
remarkably "even" tone in their different ranges and
registers.
Below is a list of brands of oboes to look for. Keep in mind though,
that there are "lemons" in the oboe world just like
the automobile world-- sometimes you just get a bad oboe, no matter
what the brand name is! The best advice I can give -- you'll
be safe if you buy from a company that makes only oboes!
This list
has been compiled with much help from oboists, oboe dealers, manufacturers,
and repair technicians. My personal thanks go out to all who helped
me in this research! I have included model numbers, features,
and approximate price ranges (of new instruments)
when possible. Also, some of the logos are links to the respective
websites. I do not have personal experience with all of these,
which is why I have asked for other professional opinions. I have
found Nora Post's website
has excellent commentary on many of these brands. Also keep in
mind that used oboes are a great way to get an excellent instrument
at a lower cost!
Price
Ranges updated June 2008 |
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Let's start with the Obvious.....
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Be sure it is an F. Lorée. On some online auction companies,
I have seen A. Lorée oboes for sale. This was the first
I had heard of these, so they scare me a little! There are different
models of F. Lorée. A few of my students have purchased
the the "AK" models-- these are NICE! They have a very
dark tone and a sound as smooth as silk. The model C+3 has also
been recommended by many performers.
Model |
Specifications |
Price
Range |
c+3
|
Grenadilla
body
Full Conservatory
Low Bb and vent key
Left hand F key
Third octave key
Split D ring
Metal lined tenons
|
New:
$7000 |
Used:
$3500-$6000, depending on age and condition |
c+3
Royal |
Grenadilla
body (thicker bore for a darker sound)
Full Conservatory
Low Bb and vent key
Left hand F key
Third octave key
Split D ring
Metal lined tenons
Adjustable thumb rest
|
New:
$8400 |
Used:
$6800-$7500 |
C
HPT |
Same
as the C series, but with a plastic top joint |
New:
$7500
*You can also buy plastic top joints separately for $3500 |
Bore
Specifications |
Standard
|
Dark,
traditional sound |
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AK
|
This
bore is more conical than the c +3 models. It is narrower
near the top and slightly wider at the bell, resulting in
a more focused and dark sound. |
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DM
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The
DM, or Deutsche Model, is more cylindrical than the Regular
bore. A full, dark "German" sound results from
the wider top and the narrower bell. |
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Royal |
The
Royal is made of more dense grenadilla wood and has a thicker
bore wall. |
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Comparable to a Lorée. Whether you're a "Lorée"
or a "Fox" person is sort of like being "Mac"
or "IBM"-- some prefer Fox, some Lorée. I usually
recommend the plastic student models for school systems.
Model |
Specifications |
Price
Range |
800
(Professional Model) |
Grenadilla
Body
Metal lined tenon sockets
Full Conservatory
Split D ring
F# key tab
Third Octave Key
Low Bb and vent key
Left hand F Key
Stainless steel springs
F# key tab
Adjustable thumbrest |
$5000 |
400
(Professional Model) |
Grenadilla
Body
Metal lined tenon sockets
Full Conservatory
Split D ring
F# key tab
Third Octave Key
Low Bb and vent key
Left hand F Key |
$4500 |
450
(Professional Model) |
Plastic
resin top joint
Grenadilla lower joint/bell
Metal lined tenon sockets
Fully Conservatory
Split D ring
F# key tab
Third octave key
Low Bb and vent key
Left hand F key |
$4200 |
300
(Student Model) |
Plastic
resin body
Full Conservatory
Split D ring
F# key tab
Third octave key
Low Bb and vent key
Left hand F key
|
$4000 |
330
Artist
(Student Model) |
Plastic
resin body
Full Conservatory
NO split D ring
F# key tab
Low Bb and vent key
Left hand F key |
$3100 |
333
Protege
(Student Model) |
Plastic
resin body
Simplified Conservatory
F# key tab
Low Bb and vent key
Left hand F key |
$2500 |
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Paul Covey makes his own line of oboe, and they are excellent.
They, along with Lorée and Fox, make up what most consider
to be the top three choices. Paul has especially perfected the
design of the bell. He even sells them separately and says that
a Covey bell will enhance the intonation, temperament, and sound
of ANY oboe, even the Lorée.
Model |
Specifications |
Price
Range |
Traditional |
Grenadilla
body
Left hand F key
Split D ring
Third octave key
Low Bb and vent key
"Philadelphia D" key
Delrin inserts in tone holes
|
New:
$5700
Used:
$4000-$5000
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Classic |
Same
as Traditional, with the exception of no Bb resonance(vent)
key and no third octave key. |
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The
Less Obvious....
Laubin--
The last I heard, there was a very long waiting list for Laubin
Oboes and English Horns (somewhere around ten years for the English
Horns I believe, four for the oboes!), but they're nice if you
can get one.
Price range: Will
be updated soon!
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"Mark Chudnow Woodwinds" oboes are made with Grenadilla
wood and are intermediate oboes.
Model
|
Specifications
|
Price
Range
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Modified
Conservatory System
|
Grenadilla
body
Metal sockets and tenon rings
Left hand F key
Low Bb and vent key
|
$3750
|
Full
French Conservatory System
|
Grenadilla
body
Metal sockets and tenon rings
Left hand F key
Low Bb and vent key |
$5000
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Fossati, another professional line oboe. In my research, I have
found that the maker of these oboes does not play oboe-- I'm not
sure if that's a bad thing, I just thought it was interesting.
Fossati began manufacturing oboes in the late '80's, and in that
time his production numbers have become comparable to some of
the other top line manufacturers.
Model |
Specifications |
Price
Range |
Graduate
(Student Model) |
Grenadilla
body
Modified Conservatory
Low Bb and vent key
Left hand F key
No Split D ring |
$2700
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E30
Tiery
(Student Model) |
Grenadilla
body
Modified Conservatory
Low Bb and vent key
Left hand F key
Split D ring |
$3600
|
Artiste
Traditional F01
(Professional Model) |
Grenadilla
body
Full Conservatory
Low Bb and vent key
Left hand F key
Split D ring
|
$5000
|
Artiste
"V"
(Professional Model)
*V"
bore - The underlying idea was that some oboists were
looking for another type of sound, rounder and more
flexible regarding the type of reeds used.
|
Grenadilla
body
Semi
automatic key system
Leather pads on the low notes
Lef hand F key
F fork resonance
3rd octave key
Double tenon ring
2nd octave stop
Adjustment for low Bb
|
$4959 |
Soloiste
Traditional A01
(Professional Model) |
Grenadilla
body
Full Conservatory
Low Bb and vent key
Left hand F key
Split D ring
Philadelphia D
Rhodium (non-oxydizing metal) covered keys |
$5500
|
Soloiste
"V"
(Professional Model) |
Grenadilla
body
Semi automatic key system
Leather pads on the low notes
Lef hand F key
F fork resonance
3rd octave key
Double tenon ring
2nd octave stop
Adjustment for low Bb
Philadelphia D |
$6800 |
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Like Lorée, Marigaux is another French oboe. I have read
about more and more professional oboists switching from some of
the more well-known professional models to the Marigaux. Everyone
I have spoken to has had great things to say about this oboe.
Model
|
Specifications
|
Price
Range
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901
|
Professional
model
Left hand F key
Low Bb and vent key |
$7600
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908
|
Same
as 901, but with Gold Plated keys |
|
2001
|
Artist
model
Left hand F key
|
$7800
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2008
|
Same
as 2001, but with Gold Plated keys |
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Cabart--
An intermediate level oboe. The brand name has been owned by Loree
since 1974, so only oboes marked with "Cabart - 74"
are those actually made by Loree. My only experience with Cabart
was a student I worked with at a summer band camp. The oboe seemed,
in my short time with it, to be a very nice intermediate instrument.
I think the general concensus is that these oboes are good intermediate
oboes, and older used ones are quite serviceable.
Model
|
Specifications
|
Price
Range
|
Intermediate
(Student Model)
|
Gredadilla
body
Full Conservatory
Left hand F key
|
$4800
|
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These oboes are less well known in the United States, but seem
to be the oboe of choice among professionals in France! Some players
are saying that the Rigoutat mixes the best qualities of the Laubin
and Lorée oboes. Definitely one to keep an eye on!
Price range: Will
be updated soon!
Model
|
Specifications
|
Price
Range
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Riec
(Student Model)
|
Grenadilla
body
Full Conservatory
Low Bb and vent key
Left hand F key
Third octave key
|
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Delphine
(Beginner Model)
|
Grenadilla
body
Simplified Conservatory
Low Bb and vent key
Left hand F key |
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Classical
(Professional Model)
"The oboe of soloists and concert artists"
|
Grenadilla
body
Full Conservatory
Low Bb and vent key
Left hand F key
Third octave key |
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Symphony
(Professional Model)
"Easier emission in the lows and in the low high
links... better adapted to the orchestra. It's tone quality
merges better with other instruments"
|
Grenadilla
body
Full Conservatory
Low Bb and vent key
Left hand F key
Third octave key |
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Evolution
(Professional Model)
"The rich tone quality of the Classical oboe, but
also has a higher low register and a more stable high
register"
|
Grenadilla
body
Full Conservatory
Low Bb and vent key
Left hand F key
Third octave key |
|
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Howarth oboes, for the past 50 years, have been played mostly
by the English musicians. During the past 20 years, Howarth has
expanded it's production to offer their product to the American
player. I have heard nothing but great things about these oboes,
though I've never tried one myself.
Model
|
Specifications
|
Price
Range
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S45P
(Student Model)
|
High
density resin body
Full Conservatory
NO split D ring
Left hand F key
Low Bb and vent key |
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S55P
(Professional Model)
|
High
density resin upper joint
Grenadilla lower joint/bell
Metal lined tenon sockets
Full Conservatory
Split D ring
Left hand F key
Low Bb and vent key
|
$4800
|
S55C
(Professional Model)
|
Grenadilla
body
Metal lined tenon sockets
Full Conservatory
Split D ring
Left hand F key
Low Bb and vent key |
$4800
|
S5XL
(Professional Model)
|
Grenadilla
body (thicker bore than the standard, comparable to the
Lorée Royale)
Metal lined tenon sockets
Full Conservatory
Split D ring
Left hand F key
Low Bb and vent key |
$8000
|
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I have to admit, this one was a bit of a surprise to me! I haven't
had personal experience with Yamaha oboes, but many of the dealers
and oboe specialists I surveyed recommended the model YOB-410
(plastic model) or YOB-411 (wooden model) for intermediates. The
new Yamaha YOB-841 is their professional level oboe, and it is
apparently making quite a splash too.
Model |
Specifications |
Price
Range |
YOB-241
(Student Model) |
ABS
resin body
Simplified Conservatory
Covered keys
No low Bb key
No left hand F key |
$1909
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YOB-441A
(Intermediate Model) |
ABS
resin body
Simplified Conservatory
Covered keys
Low Bb key
Left hand F key
|
$2400
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YOB-441P
(Intermediate Model) |
ABS
resin top joint
Grenadilla lower joint/bell
Simplified Conservatory
Covered keys
Low Bb key
Left hand F key
|
$2500
|
YOB-441
(Intermediate Intermediate) |
Grenadilla
body
Simplified Conservatory
Covered keys
Low Bb key
Left hand F key |
$2650
|
YOB-831
(Professional Model) |
Same as 841, but with narrower European bore |
$4700 |
YOB-841
(Professional Model) |
Tapered
tone holes
Grenadilla body
Full Conservatory
Covered keys
Split D ring
Low Bb key and vent key
Left hand F key
"Philadelphia D" key
*Third octave key available on the YOB-841T
|
$5000 |
YOB-841L
(Professional Model) |
Same
as 841 but with synthetic insert in top joint. |
$5400 |
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-- This is a Japanese oboe. Manufactured by Yukio Nakamura
since 1991, these oboes are played by performers all over the
world. As stated in the Musik Josef brochure, "The conception
and manufacture of a JOSEF oboe is not oriented by a commercial
philosophy; meeting the performer's demands is what really matters."
Model
|
Specifications
|
Price
Range
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S-1
|
Grendadilla
body
Semi-Automatic
Modified Conservatory
Third octave key
Left hand F key
Low Bb and vent key
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Will
be updated soon!
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GS-1
|
Grenadilla
body
Semi-Automatic
Full Conservatory
Third octave key
Left hand F key
Low Bb and vent key |
Will
be updated soon!
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GF-1
|
Grenadilla
body
Fully Automatic
Fully Conservatory
Third octave key
Left hand F key
Low Bb and vent key
F roller key (to roll from regular F to D)
|
Will
be updated soon!
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MGS-1
|
Grenadilla
body
Semi-Automatic
Full Conservatory
Third octave key
Left hand F key
|
Will
be updated soon!
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MGF-1
|
Grenadilla
body
Fully Automatic
Full Conservatory
Third octave key
Left hand F key
Low Bb and vent key
F roller key |
Will
be updated soon!
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CGS-2
|
Grenadilla
body
Semi Automatic
Full Conservatory
Third octave key
Left hand F key
Pink-Gold plated keys |
Will
be updated soon!
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CGF-2
|
Grenadilla
body
Fully Automatic
Fully Conservatory
Third octave key
Left hand F key
Pink-Gold plated keys
F roller key |
Will
be updated soon!
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CCoS-2
|
Cocus
body
Semi Automatic
Full Conservatory
Third octave key
Left hand F key
Pink-Gold plated keys
|
Will
be updated soon!
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Frequently
Asked Questions--
- Where should
I get an instrument? --When purchasing an instrument,
as I've said on the other pages of this site, I strongly suggest
that you do so from a double reed specialist
shop. Most companies will send you the instrument (after
you furnish a credit card number of course) for a trial period
of about a week or so. This is the best thing I can recommend.
I know, with the red tape involved in purchasing a school instrument,
this may not be possible-- but I would still try to find a way!
- Will that
be plastic or wooden?-- The ultimate conflict. Of course,
most will agree that wooden is always better. If you are purchasing
an instrument for a school, however, I would suggest either
a plastic oboe, or an oboe with a plastic top joint and a wooden
bottom joint-- they're just more practical. With wooden oboes,
the question isn't "Will it crack?", but "WHEN
will it crack?" Wooden oboes need to be broken in-- not
just when they are new, but also if they have been unplayed
for a length of time. If an oboe is not broken in properly,
it WILL crack. The plastic oboes (or top joints) are much more
practical for a school instrument. Some companies are also making
oboes that are called "hybrids"-- they have integrated
wood and plastic. The only experience I have with a hybrid is
that one of my private students owns one. I have played this
instrument and it is a very nice instrument! Maybe they're on
to something!
- What is "Full
Conservatory", and do I really need it?-- It is
what you want to get! Full conservatory basically means the
oboe has all the bells and whistles-- the left-hand
"F" key, the third octave key, low Bb resonance key,
split "D" ring, etc. And yes, you need all those things--
they help keep the young player from developing bad habits (that
oboe teachers spend months/years trying to break them of!),
such as using the alternate "forked F" as their default
fingering for "F". I really don't understand why ANY
company even still makes an oboe that is not full conservatory
(it is sort of like making a car without air conditioning and
seat belts).
- What should
I do if my new oboe cracks?-- This is one reason I suggest
buying from a double reed specialist. Most reputable dealers
offer warranties on their new instruments. When doing research
before buying my English horn, I found that most companies offer
a warranty ranging from 1 to 2 years. You really need to get
the details on the warranty though... does it include crack
repairs, and for how long? Some companies will warranty an instrument
for 2 years, but only 6 months for crack repairs. If an instrument
is going to crack, it will probably do so within the first year
of play, so 6 months for crack repairs isn't all that great.
If it does crack, however, you need to get the crack repaired
as soon as possible! The longer the oboe is played, the worse
the crack will get, and the chances are higher that the crack
will open up again later.
- What else
should I know about purchasing an oboe?-- What else
is included in the purchase price? Does the purchase price include
a case? (Don't laugh, some don't!) Does it include a case cover?
If you are buying an English Horn (bless you, you wonderful
band director!), does the price include a double case? Is an
instrument stand included? (Some include a plastic stand!).What
about a humidity control device (such as a dampit)?
- Should I,
as an "oboe challenged" band director, ever touch
my school oboe with a screwdriver?-- I wouldn't suggest
it, unless it is simply a post screw that needs tightening.
Most the screws on the oboe are adjustment screws. It may be
very obvious that to fix a leak on one pad, all you have
to do is tighten "this" or "that" adjustment
screw. By doing this, however, you just might create another
problem with another pad.
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